While the federal Canadian legislation would allow people to grow small amounts of marijuana at home, Québec wouldn’t allow it, under draft legislation written by the province’s ruling Liberal Party.
The federal government has mandated nationwide marijuana legalization by July 1, while leaving details to the country’s provinces. Like Vermont, Québec already has legal medical marijuana and is struggling to develop a framework for broader legalization.
Under the draft provincial legislation, police would be allowed to take saliva samples from drivers. Anyone found to have any trace of THC in their system could face license suspension for 90 days. By comparison, under proposed rules in the province of Ontario, those restrictions would only apply to young and novice drivers.
As in Vermont, there is currently no standardized test for THC in Canada.
“The message we want to send is: If you consume cannabis, don’t drive,” said Québec transport minister André Fortin, according to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
Individuals 18 and older in Québec — the province’s legal drinking age — would be allowed to transport 30 grams and to possess 150 grams at a time.
“The proposed measures aim to limit risk and mischief linked to abuse of this substance and to fight the trivialization of this product,” Québec Health Minister Lucie Charlebois told the Globe and Mail. “We will be prudent and restrictive from the start.”
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So if there is a supposed roadside question in Vermont, why don’t they do the same as Canada? Take a saliva sample.. It sounds easy enough, just ask them how it is done! Jesus Vermont, get some brains and get in this century!!
Alcohol is formed due to spontaneous fermentation. Wild yeast in the air is constantly fermenting fruits, juice, and many other everyday things. Cannabis is a plant that’s existed for many millions of years before humans existed. And all of a sudden, governments want to imprison people for fermenting things and for growing plants. We live in a world where governments are using chemical weapons, blowing up H-bombs, starving millions of people, and ruining the environment. But they want to fully control basic, ancient natural phenomena. Guess what, people will do these things and nothing bad will happen. Unless the lunatic governments put people in prison or just stress people out. Don’t be like Assad or Kim Jong Un. Be more like Trudeau.
Why do police need breath or saliva tests? A driver who is impaired, for any reason, is endangering others. It could be alcohol, weed, prescription or otc pharmaceuticals, lack of sleep, anger or other mental problems, physical illness — whatever! If driving erratically, involved in an accident, or hurt someone while driving, and exhibit signs of impairment, document the behavior and charge accordingly.
Why doesn’t Canada take the chicken way out and just form a committee to “study” it some more?
Pedophile politicians continue protecting their illicit income through making Cannabis illegal. What else do you expect?
Never thought I’d see the day where’d I’d be disgusted with Vermont goverment over pot. Figured they’d just legalize a few years back.
We can create a health care exchange that doesn’t work and costs an assload.
We can fuck education funding to hell and back and pay twice as much as a decade ago with fewer students and get the same test scores.
But when it comes to allowing people to not get arrested or fined for growing a plant in their back yard, we’re flummoxed.
Here’s an open, quick letter to the Dems, the Repubs and even the Progs in this state on this issue:
Eat shit. You’re all retarded. And you don’t know the first thing about personal liberty or economics.
A pox on all your houses.
Let’s vote all these fuck-wads out.
The simplest thing and they’re least on the cutting edge of it.
Hands down, VT has the shittiest, dumbest government in the country. Also one of the least transparent. We’ll be an island in the midst of other jurisdictions with legal pot well into the 2020s. Mark my words.
One more thing, to anybody in our vaunted state government that might be listening:
1. LT GOV Zuck: Come up with a bill that would be political suicide for Scott NOT to pass. I know you’re not the savviest pol (that’s not particularly an insult) on the block but I think with some consultation you could cook one up.
2. GOV Scott: Pull your head away from whatever magazine you’re looking at to order Holley carbs and Edelbrock intakes for two seconds to read said bill and sign it. You can get back to Thunder Road soon enough.
3. All VT Legislature morons: Pass it. Not too tough. If there’s a bill where people can grow their own “pot, reefer, ganja” whatever you want to call it for medicinal or recreational purposes, pass it.
It’s a liberty issue and a health issue.
But I’m sure Fletcher and the Medical Establishment is leaning on you pretty hard to not pass it. Fuck ’em. End of the day, we, the taxpayers of Vermont, pay the bills. And we’re getting fed up.
After reading these hysterical comments from the pro-legal weed, hardcore marijuana smokers, one has to wonder what ill effects weed really has on the human brain.
@ Thomas Sperry
For the record, I haven’t smoked pot in about a decade. And I don’t have cancer or some other debilitating disease so I have no dog in this fight, per se.
But I defend the right of people to put what they want in their own bodies the same as I defend the 1st and 2nd Amendments. All of the Amendments, really. They’re all great. You should read them sometime. They’re really, really solid. It’s as if some smart people drafted them up hundreds of years ago and they’ve been slowly yet surely eroded over time.
If you can’t even decide what you want to put in your own body, you’re not free. You’re a possession of the state, to be used and abused as it sees fit. And the state’s power inevitably becomes controlled by a very small group of people so that it can be used to guarantee their own profits regardless of the costs to society.
You wouldn’t like it if some asshole passed a law regulating what kinds of spices you can keep in your kitchen cupboard. Especially when the regulation is moronic.
Imagine if we banned oregano tomorrow and arrested people for having too much oregano.
Cannabis prohibition is about as moronic.
I’ll leave you with a paraphrased quote from Barry Goldwater:
“Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue”.
@ abrowning,
You stated you haven’t smoked pot in about a decade, but after reading your three rambling posts, one has to wonder if the damage was already done or you’ve moved on to other stuff.
@ Thomas Sperry
Are you being deliberately thick or do you honestly not get the general thrust of my argument?
No, I haven’t moved on to “harder” substances.
And cannabis prohibition is hardly the only thing that I’m passionate about axing.
The reason our state and country are in the shape they’re in is because people tend to just go with the flow and not get irate about being perpetually dicked over by heavy-handed “one-size-fits-all” government bureaucracy and regulation.
Perhaps you should develop a little more healthy outrage from time to time. Might be good for you.
Next time I comment I’ll keep it under 140 characters so I don’t run the risk of maxing out anyone’s attention span.