Credit: James Buck

Winooski City Manager Katherine Decarreau and her predecessors spent years grappling with big problems. They searched for companies willing to invest in the hulking, abandoned mills along the Winooski River that seemed a cruel reminder of how far the city had fallen. They struggled to draw visitors to a downtown bereft of dining and entertainment options. They coped with a shaky property tax base, while neighboring Burlington, Essex Junction and Colchester all thrived.

But in the last few months, Decarreau has been dealing with a dilemma that stems from fixing all of those ills: complaints that there is too much noise being generated in the now-hopping downtown.

“An old boss of mine once said, ‘The best you can get in life is having a better problem to solve,'” Decarreau said. “For years, we were criticized for nothing happening, and now things are happening. That’s a better problem to have.”

But it is a problem nonetheless.

Last month, a group of residents from the Cascades Riverfront Condominiums expressed concern that neighboring Waterworks Food + Drink restaurant planned to offer outdoor seating for up to 70 patrons in the summer. On behalf of the Cascades Condominium Association, residents Kate Savelyeva and Nancy Blasberg wrote to Decarreau and the city council questioning the decision to permit Waterworks to serve on the riverwalk area, which is public space.

The Cascades, where two-bedroom units go for around $250,000, bills itself as offering “the finest in upscale city neighborhood living,” and being “fully integrated into the lively downtown area.”

“We believe it is important for us and for the value of our property to better understand the city’s plans,” the letter said. Blasberg did not respond to a request for comment. Savelyeva declined to answer questions.

Meanwhile, city officials have periodically received complaints in recent months from other downtown residents. Interim Police Chief Rick Hebert recently held a community meeting to talk about noise from concerts at the Monkey House and other bars, and city councilors are debating whether to alter the downtown decibel-level limit or impose other restrictions.

Nobody is getting exactly what they want, Decarreau said.

“We think we can achieve perfection and get everybody in a room and make everybody delighted with a single consensus-building moment, but it doesn’t happen that way,” Decarreau said. “You will never achieve 100 percent satisfaction in any solution. As soon as government gets involved, it’s because there’s a dispute.”

Waterworks owner David Abdoo said the controversial outdoor seating is vital to his business plan. The lure of al fresco riverfront dining will bring in revenue to offset the cost of transforming the 7,500-square-foot restaurant space, which had been empty for about decade before Abdoo and his partners opened last year.

“For me, the investment in a space like this, the margins are so small, you have to generate a profit to grow, and the big draw here is a beautiful spot on the river,” Abdoo said.

In response to his neighbors, city hall got Abdoo to promise to clear away outdoor patrons by 10 p.m. — two hours earlier than he can legally serve.

The compromise is fair, according to Abdoo.

“I’m very comfortable with the situation,” he said. “You don’t want to come in and say, ‘I have a legal right to do it,’ and stay open until 2 a.m. I listened to their concerns. It’s about coexisting with everybody. We’re going to be together for a long time.”

Neighbors appear willing to drop their opposition. “The subject is closed now,” Savelyeva said. She declined further comment.

On the other side of the traffic circle, Decarreau said, a few residents have voiced complaints about music from bands playing at the Monkey House. In response, city councilors recently considered amending an ordinance that would have lowered the acceptable volume from 100 to 70 decibels.

But there was a big problem: When police officers took their decibel meter downtown, they found that even during a relatively quiet afternoon, noise from the surrounding area and vehicular traffic on the roundabout already surpassed 70 decibels.

And if the city imposed a higher limit — say, 85 decibels — police officers would be responsible for responding to complaints and measuring the sound levels. The prospect was not appealing to the cops.

“The reason I held the forum was, I was trying to come up with a better solution than calling the police,” Hebert said. “The businesses are very open to working with us. They don’t want to be bad neighbors. We’re trying to get people to see both sides.”

Monkey House owner Ryan Smith said he and other downtown business owners are trying to be considerate while preserving their need to keep the downtown vital.

“It’s been a civil conversation,” he said. “We want to be good neighbors, but we don’t want to impede our success. Most people understand. It’s tough to find a compromise in a small city that is growing so quickly, to make sure everyone is successful and everyone is comfortable.”

On Monday night, the city council was ready to adopt an agreement that would have kept the decibel meters on the shelves. Venues with entertainment permits for live music or “amplified sound” would have been required to close their windows and doors by 10 p.m. on weeknights; on weekends, by midnight.

But Smith told councilors he was uncomfortable with the strict time limits in that compromise. If it was an especially warm night, or if a quiet band was playing, Smith argued, he shouldn’t be forced to close his windows. He said he preferred a case-by-case approach.

“Our track record is that 100 times out of 100, when police come to our establishment and ask us to close our doors, we’ve done it,” Smith said, describing the proposed rule as “close-minded. I don’t think what’s on that paper right now is fair.”

Instead of making a decision, councilors asked Decarreau to research a new proposed ordinance that would address Smith’s concerns. Limits on decibel levels, Decarreau said, may be considered again. The council is scheduled to revisit the issue later this month.

Winooski’s noise problems may seem unremarkable, even trivial, compared to those on Burlington’s bustling Church Street. But in the last few years, Winooski has become a trendy, less expensive alternative to Burlington for many young professionals, and nearly a dozen restaurants and bars around the downtown roundabout are packed with patrons nearly every night.

The city spawned one of Vermont’s hippest music events. Last weekend, the fifth annual Waking Windows festival drew several thousand people downtown to hear dozens of bands over three days. Some city streets were closed, and fans flocked to an outdoor stage. The music could be heard several blocks away.

The festival’s organizers obtained permits without a hitch — not one citizen or business opposed the festival, Decarreau said. The Winooski Police Department said there were no noise complaints associated with the event.

Meanwhile, city leaders are turning their attention to other areas of the city, and have started drafting regulations in three so-called “gateway areas” where they hope to see more commercial and residential development. The recent downtown noise debate, officials said, will guide any growth.

For example, Hebert suggested that while designing master plans for the gateways, acoustics should be considered more carefully. City officials believe the way the downtown buildings have been designed and laid out has created something of a noise tunnel that runs from the traffic circle through Winooski Falls Way, where the Cascades and other condo complexes are located. Those who construct new buildings might be required to install more effective soundproofing measures.

Regardless, Decarreau said, Winooski must continue to lure more businesses if it is to remain healthy. “I don’t think anybody is trying to curtail it,” Decarreau said. “They’re trying to maintain a quality of life.”

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Mark Davis was a Seven Days staff writer 2013-2018.

6 replies on “Once Too Quiet, Trendy Winooski Has a New Problem: Noise”

  1. Winooski doesn’t have a roundabout, it has a traffic circle.
    Many people confuse other and older styles of circular intersections with modern roundabouts. East coast rotaries, large multi-lane traffic circles (Arc D’Triomphe, Dupont Circle), and small neighborhood traffic circles are not modern roundabouts. If you want to see the difference between a traffic circle, a rotary (UK roundabout) and a modern roundabout (UK continental roundabout), go to http://tinyurl.com/kstate-RAB to see pictures. And here’s another site that shows the difference between an older rotary and a modern roundabout: http://tinyurl.com/bzf7qmg.

    If the entry lane has a stop sign, it’s not a modern roundabout.
    If you could play a game of football in the center landscaped area, it’s not a modern roundabout.
    If the circular roadway has a stop sign, yield sign or signal, it’s not a modern roundabout.
    If you don’t have to slow down to enter it, it’s not a modern roundabout.
    If you have to change lanes in the circular roadway to exit, it’s not a modern roundabout.
    If you can easily drive faster than 20 mph in the circular roadway, it’s not a modern roundabout.
    If it has a park for pedestrians, or a building, in the middle, it’s not a modern roundabout.

  2. Having previously lived and worked in Winooski, the biggest noise problem is the fighter jets but at least Winooski is doing something about it and standing up for their rights. Same thing if you live virtually anywhere in South Burlington (not just the newly expanded “not suitable for residential use” zone). Absolutely amazed people willing to spend high six figures & up for some of those houses on the golf course right under the fighter jet flight path.

  3. I recently had dinner outside at the Waterworks and commented at how lovely it was that the river drowned out so much background noise. We were able to have quiet conversation for a change! I’m so glad Waterworks has outdoor seating! And am unclear why nearby residents would make such a fuss. It’s a lovely addition to the town, was fun watching so many people coming and going from the walking path, even the jet noise was softened when sitting there.

  4. As one of the “young professionals” that live in Winooski (in the Cascades building), I think all of the activity here is so great. Winooski is such a fun little spot with awesome places to eat and drink. I love the live music and restaurant buzz – it’s a big reason why I decided to live here! The river is beautiful and can drown out almost any noise – if you want to skip the city sounds but want to be in Winooski, a place facing the river would be the best bet!

  5. Vermont has the same problem Florida has. An older population with low tolerance. If you want thriving get out of the Northeast and head to the Northwest. Portland, Oregon and Seattle, Washington are thriving cities that work together, are youthful in vision and realize to have a thriving community you must make certain sacrifices. People who live in a downtown area should have the smarts to know there will be noise in a THRIVING downtown. Go move out to the vast amounts of country Vermont is famous for if you want your peaceful uneventful life. Oh, and by the way, fighter jets are cool. Get over it.

  6. Noise is a problem in a developing community. Performing soundproofing inside the home or the apartment should help get back the quietness.

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