Last April, Republican Senate candidate Scott Milne slammed his party’s future presidential nominee, Donald Trump, for “cozying up to the [Ku Klux] Klan.” But, he added, “I’m not ruling him out.”
In June, Milne called Trump’s denigration of a federal judge whose parents were born in Mexico “distressing.” But, the Senate candidate said, “I’m still listening.”
In July, Milne said it was “a poor decision” for Trump to post anti-Semitic imagery on Twitter. But, he added, “I would be delighted if I was in a place where I was supporting Donald Trump by November.”
In August, Milne called Trump’s Islamophobic attacks on Khizr and Ghazala Khan — the parents of a slain Army captain — “silly.” But, Milne said, he was “still hopeful” he could find a way to support his party’s nominee.
On Saturday afternoon, Milne called a newly released videotape of Trump bragging about sexual assault “disgusting,” “offensive” and “pretty disturbing.” But, he said of the 2005 Access Hollywood video, “It’s not enough for me to change what I told you, which is, ‘I’ll tell you who I’m voting for when we get closer.'”
Then, something mysterious happened. After months of excusing the inexcusable, Milne finally grew a backbone — or a conscience. Or maybe he just made an overdue political calculation.
Within 20 minutes of arguing that Trump’s “grab them by the pussy” remarks were “not enough” to disqualify him from the presidency, Milne called back to say that they were.
“I was optimistic that Trump was going to evolve into a candidate that I at least wouldn’t vote against, but he has evolved into a candidate that I can’t vote for in the last 24 hours,” Milne told Seven Days later that afternoon. “This latest thing was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Whether I was going to vote for him or not, now it’s clear I’m not going to vote for him.”
Milne, who is challenging Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) in next month’s election, was hardly alone in his deathbed conversion. Throughout the country last weekend, GOP politicians pulled their endorsements like rats fleeing a sinking orange ship. Even in Vermont, where many top Republicans had long since abandoned Trump, a few remaining rodents scurried ashore.
“At this time, I am withdrawing my support for Mr. Trump,” House Minority Leader Don Turner (R-Milton) said in a statement Saturday night, calling the nominee’s words “indefensible, offensive and inexcusable.”
They were also politically problematic for Turner’s House Republican caucus, which he had been hoping to expand beyond its near-super-minority status in November’s election.
“I’m very concerned about it,” Turner said Monday. “I’ve spent six years of my life trying to get more Republicans in the legislature, and I could see that all go away because of a presidential candidate we had no say about.”
Well, technically, they did have some say in the matter. In last March’s presidential primary, Vermont Republicans gave Trump a plurality of their votes. And at July’s Republican National Convention, all but three Vermont delegates cast ballots for the eventual nominee.
“I’m just hopeful that Vermonters will decide who they want to be the next president but they won’t hold it against anyone down the ballot,” Turner said.
At greatest risk is the state party’s greatest hope: Lt. Gov. Phil Scott, who is locked in a tight gubernatorial race with Democratic former transportation secretary Sue Minter.
To be sure, Scott dodged a bullet by denouncing Trump 13 months ago and consistently confirming that he would never vote for the man. That’s kept Democrats from tagging Scott as a Trump toady, the way they have GOP gubernatorial nominee Chris Sununu in New Hampshire. And it’s kept them from calling out his every awkward bob and weave, the way they have Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) in the Granite State.
“Every day that goes by and the more I hear off the campaign trail from Donald Trump just reaffirms my decision,” Scott says. “I feel good about the decision I made.”
But the lieutenant governor says that he, too, is “concerned” that Trump’s self-immolation could cost Scott the race. Republicans tend to do worse in Vermont during presidential election years because otherwise flaky Democratic voters suddenly turn out in droves. That trend could be exacerbated in November if Trump’s presence on the ticket further juices Democratic turnout.
“You’re a guy. So am I. We’ve probably all said similar things. There just wasn’t a camera on at the time.” Addison County Republican Party chair Jon Christiano
Jake Perkinson, a former chair of the Vermont Democratic Party, says he thinks most Vermont Republicans “have positioned themselves fairly well” in opposition to Trump. But even though some Bernie Sanders-loving Democrats aren’t keen on backing presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, Perkinson argues, “I think that’s going to be countered by an even more depressed turnout among Republicans because of Trump.”
David Sunderland, who chairs the Vermont Republican Party, disagrees with that theory. He argues that “the prospect of a Hillary Clinton presidency” will do more than enough to motivate his party stalwarts.
“He’s the only alternative to a Hillary Clinton presidency, which is unfathomable,” Sunderland says of Trump.
The party chair is in an uncomfortable position. He calls the latest Trump bombshell “repulsive and disappointing and shocking.” But even though the Vermont GOP has said for months that it’ll focus exclusively on state elections this year, there’s not much he can do to remove the taint of Trump.
“He’s our party’s nominee, and we are the Republican Party of Vermont, and the Republican Party of Vermont supports its nominees,” Sunderland says. “So that’s where we’re at.”
Sunderland’s job is made harder by party leaders who don’t exactly stay on message. Over the weekend, Turner’s minority whip, Rep. Brian Savage (R-Swanton), wrote on Facebook that he could no longer support Trump. But as Vermont Public Radio’s Peter Hirschfeld reported, Savage later deleted the post and defended Trump’s X-rated remarks.
“We’ve probably said similar things in our lifetime, you and I,” the Swanton Republican told Hirschfeld with a chuckle. “It’s just that the microphone probably wasn’t on.”
Yuck.
Other prominent Republicans also weighed in on Facebook. Deb Bucknam, the party’s nominee for attorney general, said that while Trump’s words were “gross,” Clinton had “destroyed women’s lives.” She repeated accusations, raised by Trump at Sunday’s presidential debate, that the Democratic nominee had intimidated women who had accused her husband of extramarital affairs.
“If Bill Clinton and his enabler wife, who set out to destroy Bill’s accusers, are qualified to be President, then this conversation by Donald Trump certainly does not disqualify him,” the St. Johnsbury attorney wrote.
Reached Monday by phone, Bucknam was far less loquacious. She refused to say who she was supporting in the presidential contest, nor what she thought about Trump’s remarks.
“No comment,” she said. “I am focused on my own race.”
Many of Trump’s most prominent Vermont supporters remain in his camp and eagerly parrot his most salacious — and, in some cases, unfounded — accusations.
“Trump rightly apologized for private but crass comments from 10 years ago,” says party vice chair Brady Toensing, who chairs Trump’s Vermont campaign. “But while he said bad things, the Clintons have done bad things. There are four dead in Benghazi. There are victims of sexual harassment, assault and even rape who are not believed but instead viciously discredited by the Clinton coterie of political grifters.”
Trump state director Darcie Johnston agrees, adding, “Hillary Clinton is a crook and a liar.”
Johnston’s candidate has been roundly criticized since suggesting at Sunday’s debate that he would lock Clinton up if he won the White House. But some Vermont activists seem to think his plan makes sense.
“Hillary should be in jail,” says Richard Bailey, a Hyde Park resident who chairs the Lamoille County Republican Party. “I think she’s guilty of breaking the Espionage Act many, many times.”
According to Bennington County Republican Party chair Carol Dupont, “She caused quite a few people to die.” Not only that, Dupont says, but Clinton is also a “predator.”
“I think she preyed on the women that her husband had affairs with,” the Manchester Republican says. “She took their name and tried to go after them and actually spent money researching one and calling her a ‘bimbo.'”
Derby activist Chet Greenwood agrees that Clinton is “an enabler.” Trump’s comments were “disturbing,” the Orleans County Republican Party chair says, “but it’s between two adults. The things I’ve read about Hillary and Bill Clinton are far worse than that.”
And Trump, Greenwood argues, doesn’t always mean what he says.
“He’s not polished. He’s not a politician,” Greenwood says. “When he says ‘no Muslims,’ he doesn’t mean that. He means he’s going to screen ’em.”
Like Rep. Savage in Swanton, Addison County Republican Party chair Jon Christiano seems to think all men talk about grabbing women’s genitals without their permission.
“You’re a guy. So am I. We’ve probably all said similar things,” the New Haven resident says. “There just wasn’t a camera on at the time.”
Again, yuck.
“If it came down to him and Hillary Clinton, at least he didn’t leave an American ambassador to die in a foreign country,” Christiano adds. “She’s infinitely worse than Donald Trump could be.”
Dupont, the Bennington County chair, says she thinks Scott erred in condemning his party’s presidential nominee.
“I’m disappointed in any Republican that doesn’t back the Republican ticket,” she says. “If you’re a Republican, first of all, Reagan said you never speak ill of another Republican.”
But Dupont says she’ll still vote for Scott — at least to keep Minter out of the governor’s office.
“She’s a Democrat. She’s a touchy-feely person. She’s giving everything away,” Dupont explains. “We can’t afford it … If you raise taxes any more in Vermont, you’re going to kill Vermont completely.”
The original print version of this article was headlined “Ditching Donald”
This article appears in Oct 12-18, 2016.
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I look forward to your comprehensive interviews next week putting every Democratic candidate on the spot to see if they support Bill Clinton’s past conduct, and Hillary Clinton’s creative relationship with the truth and smarmy relationships with Wall Street and the mainstream media.
Re: “a few remaining rodents scurried ashore.”
You know Paul, I’ve always thought you were a good writer and a good investigative reporter. You have always treated me fairly whenever you have interviewed me. But the above comment, while it may delight a segment of your readership, is only serving to impugn your own integrity. It also exposes your personal bias and suggests this publication has its own mission, something a good reporter and good newspaper should never do if they expect to be taken seriously.
We expect politicians to wallow in the muck of a heated campaign. But Americans, and especially Vermonters, vote them down when they get too muddy. The public relies on a free and unbiased press to expose them for what they are. The public is deprived of that ability with comments like this. Republicans are not “rodents.” Neither are Democrats, Progressives or Independents. We all just come at politics from a different perspective. But in the end we all remain human beings who have the right to be treated decently.
Actually, I’m going to endorse the “rodent” language as being perfectly and wonderfully descriptive of the current sad state of the once-great republican party. Politicians of every party have a right to be treated decently up to and until the time when they allow their party to be led by ignorant, misogynist racists who stand against everything America embodies: Freedom of religion, harboring immigrants fleeing war and persecution, equal rights to everyone.
This country needs a strong conservative party that fosters integrity and dignity and demands it of its candidates. Ignoring and trying to divert blame onto democrats for their own bad behavior is childish and uninspiring and ridiculous. Republicans can continue on this path of self destruction they wrought by pandering to ignorance and hate, but I hope they don’t. The next four years will be awful, and we only have ourselves to blame.
We need to reverse Citizens United, gerrymandering, and voting needs to be made mandatory.
Mr Milne,
I’ve had your campaign sign out by the road in Brownington right next to my Trump/Pence sign and my Phil Scott sign. A lot of family and friends will contact me prior to Election Day to ask who to vote for. You, Sir, are a flip flopper and a coward. I now believe you’d sell out to protect your self. I’m taking down your sign and putting it in the garbage where it belongs.
We all make mistakes. Owning them and repenting is what really matters. Mr Trump owned it and rebuked it.
As someone who is non-partisan, I agree with Sen. Benning about the reference to “rodents”. Partisan politics is doing our country a lot of harm. Now we are even seeing it in Vermont, with vtdigger.org banning certain commenters and unwelcoming others (I am in the latter group, which seems to be growing).
I don’t listen to any “reporters” they are the cause of our decline. Back many years ago in a journalism class I was told by my instructor that if some one could guess my political bias in my reporting or if they could tell if I was a republican or democrat, that I had failed as a journalist, guess they don’t teach that any more. Unless we listen to the candidates ourselves, we only know what the reporter wants us to know. That is scary
Hmm, tough choice, to pick the man with the frat boy attitude or the habitual liar, supporter of her rapist husband, complete disregard for the laws, and someone who has complete disregard for the families of the men killed in Benghazi. Really tough choice.
I don’t understand how Republicans think talking about what they think Bill Clinton did 25 years ago is the path to victory against Hillary Clinton. People long ago decided which allegations they believed were true (a couple), and which were not (most), and they were clear that they didn’t believe he deserved removal from office for the things he did.
I also don’t understand the continuing complaints about Hillary Clinton’s email server and the Benghazi attacks. How many investigations by how many Republicans that turn up no evidence of wrongdoing will it take to convince rank and file Republicans that there’s no “there”, there.
Any person, who has held themselves out to be a Republican, or who serves in office as a Republican, and who is not currently supporting Donald Trump, is then supporting Hillary Clinton as United States President.
Such a person should never hold office as a Republican, ever again, and if in office now, should resign.
Wow, both sides come out smelling in the comments here. And I’m really amazed at the binary thinking of everybody concerned. I know he won’t thank me for it, but I’m writing Bernie in. He was the only one in this election cycle without a smarmy background. As for the Vermont republicans who still support Trump, the word rodent is applicable. I’d like to see how many female votes they get.
I would just like to respond to the Addison County Republican chair Jon Christiano, who suggests that guys have “all said similar things”.
That is not so.
I have strong political opinions; this post isn’t about them. It’s about the basic standards of decency that are, for me, a large part of what being a Man is all about.
My respect for women is not dependent on cameras. It’s based in my most basic principles in general, and as regards sex and romance in particular.
I have been married to an amazing person who is a woman for 23 years. This is my first and only marriage. Despite challenges our marriage endures because it is based on mutual respect.
Before I was married I was very fortunate in my romantic life and enjoyed the company of a number of different women. For me, a big part of the enjoyment of these relationships was the excitement of mutually desired sex. “Grabbing” women “by the pussy” is the antithesis of the idea of mutuality. It’s not what a healthy Man wants from or with Women.
If Addison County Republican chair Jon Christiano thinks otherwise I feel genuinely sorry for him, and wonder what the women in his life … like his mother or any daughters he might have…would have to say about his opinion of what being a man entails..
And I also feel obliged to point out that any transgression… either physical or verbal… against the women in my life would be met with a blunt, proportional response.
Any Republican (RINO) who does not support the party candidate does not need my vote. I may as well vote for a Democrat because there is essentially no difference whatsoever. The Democrats have done a stellar job of smearing Trumps campaign with all of his past indiscretions. How soon we have forgotten about Bill Clinton and his cigars! Really people? If that’s how you judge the capability of a man to lead his country, we are indeed in a sad situation. I can even remember Marylin Monroe signing “Happy Birthday” to John Kennedy. So I would advise the RINO’s to get off their damn high horses and stick with the party line. Otherwise, there is no need for them.
“A. Smith” – no one is non-partisan. Everyone has internal biases. The fact that you choose to ignore yours and hold yourself out as without bias might be the real reason you are getting banned from comment sections. Just something to ponder.
Shaking my head..you put down Mr Trump for what he said but praise Billy boy Clinton for lying to the American citizens quote “I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN” LIAR…he has raped many women, Killary Clinton, quote..”I stand for all children” LIAR..1975 she got a rapist off (she volunteered) for raping a 12 yr old girl, then she laughed about it, she ruined that little girl..Clinton LIED about Benghazi, lied to the parents right over the victims flag covered coffins, lied about the email account, lies lies lies, when are you going to WAKE UP!!! Shumlin lied about a lot of things, he lied about money he used, he cheated on his wife!!!!.. If you don’t think men talk crude about women when they get together then you live in a fairy world..hell women talk about what they would like to do with a man, how they want to grab the mans junk,women talk when they get together….If everyone is held accountable for what they said yrs ago, then you all are in big trouble, because you all know you have said some crude things don’t deny it.. No one is a perfect..know I’m not, far from it..I just know I want my Country back, I want to take Vermont Back away from the liberals democrats who are ruining Vermont, Vermont use to be a great state not so much anymore..to many liberals moving in..I have my doubts about Scott, but more doubts about Minter, she’s another Shumlin..
Trump’s supporters sure have been honing the art of defending the indefensible. No, these were not just some slightly off-color remarks made in private. This was boasting of being able to get away with sexual assault. Bill Clinton is not on the ballot, but if he has committed sexual assault he should be charged. But if he should be, so should Trump. If you believe Bill Clinton should have been impeached in 1998 for having an affair with an intern, but also believe Trump should be President, you are being a hypocrite. Bill Clinton apologized too, you know. In fact he was a lot more contrite than Trump will ever be. What Republican then was saying “ah, well, boys will be boys, let’s just move on”?